# VTC Event Endorsment Briefing material

# VTC Event Endorsement

From a date which is to be specified, all controllers must have completed the VTC Event Endorsment on moodle in order to man a position at VTC.

## Access to Course

Course can be accessed below.

NO LINK. COURSE NOT YET COMPLETED

# Upper ACC / ACC Planner

<p class="callout info">This section is about the responsibility of ACC planners</p>

<p class="callout warning">All UPPER ACCs are ACC Planners</p>

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## EKDK\_A\_CTR

<p class="callout info">Planner for EKDK\_B\_CTR</p>

### 1 General

#### 1.1 Responsibilities

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Sitting on EKDK\_A\_CTR you have are generally responsible for climbs to NEXEN, and enroute traffic in Sector A/UA. While you have quite little traffic load your responsibility is </span><u><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">heavy </span></u>as you need to coordinate and plan traffic into the Brave sector. Something which is quite demanding

#### 1.2 Sector Ownership

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">With EKDK\_C\_CTR online you may be advised to take Hybrid sector EKDK\_A\_CTR which gives you responsibility of EKDK\_I\_CTR to handle departures. </span>

In case of arrivals above FL285 you are in charge of the holding.

### 2. Arrivals

<p class="callout danger">Always have close cooperation with your Active ACC Sector (EKDK\_B\_CTR) and Flow Manager (EKDK\_FMP)</p>

#### 2.1 General

Handling of arrivals are of significant important with emphasis on following situations

- Stacking of arrivals to FL270 from Mueritz to avoid LOS
- Re-Routing of EDYY arrivals as needed to avoid stacked holdings.
- Re-Routing of DWM arrivals far east via BAKLI-TIDVU
- <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Establish secondary holds at MEGAR and coordinate sequence. </span>
    - When holding established above FL280
    - EDDH arrivals at FL230

#### 2.2 Stacking for DWM

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">When you see flights from DWM at FL200 to MONAK starts getting difficult, stacking up to and including FL270 needs to be in effect. In that case contact EDWW\_M\_CTR and advise aircraft callsign and level. if flights are still at cruise level you may be able to do it directly via the TAG. </span>

If you decide to stack flights above FL270 you will need to establish secondary holdings from EDYY/EDWW arrivals

Note that enroute holdings at NIKDA and KOSEB are NOT allowed due to proximity of OLPIB hold

#### 2.3 Secondary holding at MEGAR

Flights from EDDH at FL230, and flights from EDYY when holding is stacked above FL280 is crucial. In this case you shall coordinate with EKDK\_B\_CTR to re-clear and hold at point "**MEGAR**<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">". This will ensure clearance to OLPIB without busting EDWW/EDYY airspace. </span>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">You can choose to coordinate with EKDK\_B or ask for the flights yourself to manage that holding. </span>

<p class="callout warning">At no times should more that ~10 aircraft be in OLPIB hold. If so, keep them on your frequency and hold them until load decrease at OLPIB.</p>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">When aircraft are holding at MEGAR, you MUST note and communicate to EKDK\_B\_CTR where in the sequence they fit in. Effectively this can be done by "Highlighting" the aircraft in OLPIB hold the aircraft in MEGAR hold will be </span><u><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Preceding. </span></u><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">This allows EKDK\_B to keep a hole in the holding at the level of the MEGAR hold, and then squeeze that aircraft into OLPIB hold when his turn in sequence as come. </span>

#### 2.4 Re-Routings

<p class="callout warning">All Re-Routings MUST happen in communication with Flow Manager FMP</p>

<p class="callout info">Re-Routing MAY also be directed by Flow Manager FMP</p>

Re-Routings normally are either:

<details id="bkmrk-re-routings-from-edy"><summary>Re-Routings from EDYY/EDWW to TUDO</summary>

[![image.png](https://wiki.vatsim-scandinavia.org/uploads/images/gallery/2025-10/scaled-1680-/ViYimage.png)](https://wiki.vatsim-scandinavia.org/uploads/images/gallery/2025-10/ViYimage.png)

</details><details id="bkmrk-re-routings-from-dwm"><summary>Re-Routings from DWM to BAKLI-TIDVU</summary>

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</details>**It is prohibited to execute these re-routings without the clear consent from EKDK\_FMP (if online)**

## EKDK\_C\_CTR

<p class="callout info">Planner for EKDK\_D\_CTR</p>

### 1 General

#### 1.1 Responsibilities

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Sitting on EKDK\_C\_CTR you have are generally responsible for climbs to LANGO, ODDON, and enroute traffic in Sector C/UC. </span>

#### 1.2 Sector Ownership

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">With EKDK\_D\_CTR NOT online you may be advised to take Hybrid sector EKDK\_C\_CTR which gives you responsibility of EKDK\_D\_CTR to handle TUDLO arrivals all the way down. </span>  
With EKDK\_A\_CTR is NOT online you will also be given responsibility of ACC Copenhagen Sector I.

In case of arrivals above FL285 you are in charge of the holding.

### 2. Arrivals

<p class="callout danger">Always have close cooperation with your Active ACC Sector (EKDK\_D\_CTR) and Flow Manager (EKDK\_FMP)</p>

#### 2.1 General

Handling of arrivals are of significant important with emphasis on following situations

- Ensure not more that ~8-10 aircraft are under control of EKDK\_D\_CTR
- At high traffic situations, "Pre-Clear" aircraft on arrival and into holdings"
- Stay at close contact and help you EKDK\_D\_CTR as you see fit

#### 2.2 Holdings

It is vital that EKDK\_D\_CTR is not overloaded by holdings. ~8-10 aircraft is maximum that should be in EKDK\_Ds holding at any time. In order to help him out, stand holdings in excess of 8-10 above FL280. If space above FL280 gets tight, descent aircraft into EKDK\_D\_CTRs airspace while keeping control, and handover an ad-hoc basis

<p class="callout success">Altitude in the holding is always LESS critical than amount of aircrafts on the frequency</p>

#### 2.3 Lower Holdings

If you can see that inbound traffic rush is imminent, coordinate with FMP to establish holds at TUDLO below FL130 down to a minimum to FL80

#### 2.4 Secondary holding at TALSA

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">In very heavy traffic situations and situations where we close down EKCH airspace for arrivals introduce TALSA hold on "current inbound track" with Right turns, 1.5 minute legs. </span>

Here you start stacking aircrafts as needed until they can be released into ACC Lower East

#### 2.5 Re-Routings

<p class="callout warning">All Re-Routings MUST happen in communication with Flow Manager FMP</p>

<p class="callout info">Re-Routing MAY also be directed by Flow Manager FMP</p>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">No regular Re-Routings are used from EKDK\_C\_CTR, but on Ad-Hoc basis flights may be re-cleared to either TESPI or MONAK if traffic situation demands it. </span>

**It is prohibited to execute these re-routings without the clear consent from EKDK\_FMP (if online)**

## EKDK\_V\_CTR

<p class="callout info">Planner for EKDK\_E\_CTR</p>

### 1 General

#### 1.1 Responsibilities

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Sitting on EKDK\_V\_CTR you have are generally responsible for climbs to GOLGA, and enroute traffic in Sector V/N/UN. </span>

#### 1.2 Sector Ownership

NIL

### 2. Arrivals

<p class="callout danger">Always have close cooperation with your Active ACC Sector (EKDK\_D\_CTR) and Flow Manager (EKDK\_FMP)</p>

#### 2.1 General

Handling of arrivals are of significant important with emphasis on following situations

- Ensure not more that ~8-10 aircraft are under control of EKDK\_E\_CTR
- At high traffic situations, "Pre-Clear" aircraft on arrival and into holdings"
- Stay at close contact and help you EKDK\_E\_CTR as you see fit
- Enforce Ground stop at EKBI, EKYT, EKAH, EKKA in coordination with FMP.
    - If local ATC is online INFORM them on event start that all ATC clearances are subject to release by either you or EKDK\_FMP (to be coordinated internally)

#### 2.2 Holdings

It is vital that EKDK\_E\_CTR is not overloaded by holdings. ~8-10 aircraft is maximum that should be in EKDK\_Es holding at any time. In order to help him out, stand holdings in excess of 8-10 above FL240. If space above FL240 gets tight, descent aircraft into EKDK\_E\_CTRs airspace while keeping control, and handover an ad-hoc basis

#### 2.3 Lower Holdings

If you can see that inbound traffic rush is imminent, coordinate with FMP to establish holds at TESPI below FL130 down to a minimum to FL90

<p class="callout success">Altitude in the holding is always LESS critical than amount of aircrafts on the frequency</p>

#### 2.4 Secondary holding at AAL

<p class="callout info">Aircraft from ACC Polaris (ENOR, ENOS, ENSV)</p>

In very heavy traffic situations and situations where we close down EKCH airspace for arrivals introduce AAL hold on "**263 track**<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">" with Right turns, </span>**1.5 minute legs.**

Here you start stacking aircrafts as needed until they can be released into ACC Lower East

#### 2.5 Secondary holding at BAVTA

<p class="callout info">Aircraft from ACC Scottish (EGPX)</p>

In very heavy traffic situations and situations where we close down EKCH airspace for arrivals introduce BAVTA hold on **"current inbound track"** with Right turns, **1.5 minute legs.**

Here you start stacking aircrafts as needed until they can be released into ACC Lower East

#### 2.4 Re-Routings

<p class="callout warning">All Re-Routings MUST happen in communication with Flow Manager FMP</p>

<p class="callout info">Re-Routing MAY also be directed by Flow Manager FMP</p>

<details id="bkmrk-re-routings-from-dk_"><summary>Re-Routings from DK\_V to ERNOV</summary>

[![image.png](https://wiki.vatsim-scandinavia.org/uploads/images/gallery/2025-10/scaled-1680-/eYFimage.png)](https://wiki.vatsim-scandinavia.org/uploads/images/gallery/2025-10/eYFimage.png)

</details><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">On an Ad-Hoc basis aircraft can be re-routed from TESPI to TUDLO </span>

**It is prohibited to execute these re-routings without the clear consent from EKDK\_FMP (if online)**

# Kastrup Departure Position

## 1. General

Copenhagen Departure is an overflow sector during busy events. For much of the departing aircraft's trajectory, you will be a guest in the APP sector's airspace. This means coordination and tactical vectoring is very important.

Though the LAI states APP/DEP airspace is split at FL75, in practise DEP must position aircraft to climb above FL70, and APP needs to descend traffic in order to cross abeam the landing threshold at 5000ft. DEP is responsible for identifying the suitable crossing point - where departures pass above arrivals - and coordinating this with the relevant APP sector.

Consider the following factors:

#### Arrival Load.

Before taking a departure off the SID, look to see how the arrivals are being vectored and determine where departures will cross the flow.

If departures remain below the inbound flow, leave sufficient space for APP to descend traffic.

#### Performance.

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">The SIDs in Copenhagen all require a 6.6% climb gradient to FL70 - that's 400ft per nautical mile, or a climb rate of ~1700ft/min at 250kts. </span>

At this angle, a departure will reach FL70 approximately 17nm after take-off. FL100 will be reached 25nm after take-off.

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Most </span>**medium jets**<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> can manage ~2500ft/min, which delivers a gradient of roughly 10%, or 600ft/nm. Such departures will reach FL100 approximately 17nm after lift off.</span>

With this considered, determine which strategy you will use for each departure:

- Shortest Route / Stepped Climb: relevant where a level-off is required to remain below arrivals. Use high speed below FL70 to reduce the climb gradient.
- <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Longer Route / Continuous Climb: relevant where the opportunity exists to pass above arrivals, even if departure routing is slightly longer. Instruct 250kt to maintain the 10% gradient until clear of the conflicting arrival. </span>

## 2. Procedures - Runway 04

[![DEP_04.png](https://wiki.vatsim-scandinavia.org/uploads/images/gallery/2025-09/scaled-1680-/dep-04.png)](https://wiki.vatsim-scandinavia.org/uploads/images/gallery/2025-09/scaled-1680-/dep-04.png)

Departures should avoid routing below FL70 in the red shaded area unless coordinated with APP

<details id="bkmrk-r-dep-%28w-app%29-oddon-"><summary>GM for R DEP (W APP)</summary>

- ODDON
- GOLGA / VEDAR

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Two climb opportunities exist, the one you use depends on traffic load under radar vectors in the TMA </span>**and** density of ERNOV arrivals.

1. HDG 350 until above ERNOV flow then DCT - separated from all arrivals, requires high climb gradient to FL110
2. SID or HDG 290 after until passing ERNOV flow then DCT - shorter route, lower required gradient but interaction with downwind traffic and W APP vectoring area

</details><details id="bkmrk-k-dep-%28o-app%29-kemax-"><summary>GM for K DEP (O APP)</summary>

- KEMAX
- SIMEG / SALLO
- NEXEN / KOPEX / SALLO

All conflicting departures must climb above O APP arrivals before passing abeam CH845.

1. <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">HDG 100-140 until above TIDVU flow then HDG 180-210 until above MONAK flow </span>  
    \**- shorter route but interacts with arrivals, requires at least 2500ft/min to FL100**
2. <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Remain on SID until above FL80 then DCT </span>  
    \**- longer route, standard gradient must be maintained**
3. <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">HDG 040-070 until above FL60, then follow option 1. </span>  
    \**- use where the 6.6% gradient cannot be maintained, or when O APP has vectored arrivals north of CH845**

</details>## 3. Procedures - Runway 22

[![DEP_22.png](https://wiki.vatsim-scandinavia.org/uploads/images/gallery/2025-09/scaled-1680-/dep-22.png)](https://wiki.vatsim-scandinavia.org/uploads/images/gallery/2025-09/scaled-1680-/dep-22.png)

Departures should avoid routing below FL70 in the red shaded area unless coordinated with APP

<details id="bkmrk-r-dep-%28w-app%29-oddon--1"><summary>GM for R DEP (W APP)</summary>

- ODDON
- GOLGA / VEDAR

Thread the departures through the arriving traffic - coordinate the crossing point with W APP based on the arrival load

1. <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">HDG 250-270 until above TUDLO / TIDVU flow then DCT </span>  
    \**- separated from all arrivals, requires high climb gradient to FL130**
2. <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">SID until after passing TUDLO/TESPI flow then DCT </span>  
    \**- appropriate when TUDLO flow are skipping CH645, so you pass under them**
3. <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">HDG 290-310 until passing TESPI arrivals then DCT </span>  
    \**- shorter route, lower required gradient but interaction with downwind traffic and W APP vectoring area**

</details><details id="bkmrk-k-dep-%28o-app%29-kemax--1"><summary>GM for K DEP (O APP)</summary>

- KEMAX
- SIMEG / SALLO
- NEXEN / KOPEX / SALLO

All KEMAX departures must climb above O APP arrivals before turning north

- HDG 180-210 or SID to CH818 until: 
    - KEMAX: DCT when above FL60. SID is not separated from MONAK flow.
    - SALLO / SIMEG: DCT when above FL100
- <span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">SID until passing MONAK flow then DCT - for SALLO/SIMEG </span>**only**

</details>

# VTC Event - Recency

Apart from have completed the training material for the position desired, following recency rules are in effect when sitting at Vectors to Copenhagen

## EKCH\_F\_APP

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">For controllers wishing to man EKCH\_F\_APP during VTC during official bookable times, following extra requirements are in effect: </span>

- Controller must have been online during VTC on an S3 position or higher during the preceeding 3 events before the event where he desires to book EKCH\_F\_APP

## EKDK\_B\_CTR

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">For S3 controllers with </span><u>****EKDK SOLO ENDORSEMENT**** </u>wishing to sit on EKDK\_B\_CTR during VTC during official bookable times, following extra requirements are in effect:

- MML endorsement must have been taken during S3 period

# FINAL

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## Speed Control

Speed control is different from executing base turns

It is Much easier to do!

It is much harder to trust!

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">To succeed to must be able to give proper speed control. Not too much, not too little, but preferibly EXCACTLY as I will now describe it... Its a step by step recipe devided into </span>

- Downwind checking in
- Turning Base more than 10 miles
- Turning Base less than 8 miles
- Intercepting ILS
- Established ILS
- Within 10nm
- Within 6nm

Lets begin! The different topics are short.

#### Downwind checking in

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Airplanes SHOULD be handed over by EKCH\_W\_APP/EKCH\_O\_APP maintain 220kts. if less then its for small corrections, and will make no difference. </span>

you first principle lesson is this:

### <u>***DO NOT change that speed!!!*** </u>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">The video explained it, I will not explain it again, do not reduce speed so early. It creates troubles you cannot yet see. </span>

220 should be kept until the very moment a base turn is commenced, and should only be different if you have a VERY good reason and is a skilled F\_APP controller.

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9090/mod_lesson/page_contents/1389/image.png)

#### Turning Base more than 10 miles

Normally (Almost always) when you give a base turn it will be for a minimum of 8 mile final or longer from 2500 feet or higher, and in this case...

**The base turn is where you reduce the speed to 200kts.**

Don't do less, don't do more, but trust that this is a great speed to work with!

**By the way remember to descend them to platform altitude no later than here. preferibly descend them even when they check in**

**Are there any cases where I should NOT use 200kts on base???**

Glad you asked... Yes there is! You may consider less or more when:

- Crosswind of more than 15 knots expected
    - e.g. 22L in use wind 150 at 16 knots. You can expect strong tailwind on right base
- In above case assign 180-190 on the segment with high tailwind base
- Keep 200 on the headwind base
    - Consider 210 in really strong crosswind.
- Other case where you should use another speed is the case described below

#### Turning Base less than 8 miles

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Sometimes we give a 6 miles final @ 2000' or even 5 miles final @ 1500'. In this case the base leg is situated around 8 miles from the runway, and thats just too close to the runway to have 200kts. </span>

In this case, reduce straight away to 180, or at least be ready to reduce to 180 when established on base.

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9090/mod_lesson/page_contents/1389/image%20%281%29.png)

#### Intercepting ILS

When intercepting the ILS is the next thing thats a lesson in trust!

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Do NOT change the speed until he is established, and you can see excactly how close you are to the 3nm separation between airplanes. </span>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Only if you see you are below 3nm on an intercept should you reduce speed. Like here: </span>

#### Established ILS

Once established on the ILS, it is probably time to reduce the speed.

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">It depends however on the distance to the aircraft in front. </span>

If aircraft in front is still far ahead?

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Keep 200 until 10dme, and then reduce to 180, or 160. </span>

If aircraft in front is a factor

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Reduce to 180 when on the localizer, to allow to keep distance to preceeding. Eventually preceeding will slow to 160, and he will catch up to 3nm separation. </span>

If aircraft in front is 3nm ahead

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Match the speed to him. But do not go 160 until within 10nm final, otherwise you will slow the aircrafts behind too much. </span>

#### Within 10nm

Regardless of separation, and aircraft should be reduced to 180 no later than 10nm final

#### Within 6nm

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Regardless of separation, and aircraft MUST be reduced to 160 no later than 6nm final as pr. ICAO DOC 4444. </span>

Issuing 160 until 4DME is always the best thing!

180 until 6DME is also an approved option

## Base turns

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Giving the base turn at the perfect moment is tricky, but you have to first of all train yourself to not hesitate. It is earlier than you think. </span>

Remember to be ready to put an aircraft on a vector, if you base turn appears later than the Vectors fix (ABEGI,ADOVI,ERPUK,DOPEM)

Regular base turn

The regular base turn is the easierst and most predictable. However, it also takes away a lot of flexibility. Once he is on base, he is easily more commited to the final turn.

Therefore knowing WHEN to issue that base turn to have a perfect 3nm separation is important. Lets look at some different situations to help you.

#### 1 - Basic Base turn with preceding already on final

This is by far the easiest. Situations is

BMA2060 on base, speed 220

NSZ81E on final, speed 200

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">BMA2060 Radar target (Square) is passing NSZ81Es point of his 3nm arrow pointer. </span>

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image.png)

Thats when to turn base. You have a window of +/- 5 seconds to issue the instruction.

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">You can even issue it slightly before if you like. Especially if you feel it is a slow pilot. </span>

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%281%29.png)

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Now BMA2060 is on base, As you see in red you have to evaluate his arrow pointer to the radar target of NSZ81E. Normally it will be enough to an almost immediately turn to intercept. </span>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Blue denotes his 3nm pointer if he had turn directly inbound. There would still have been distance to spare. </span>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Therefore do not hesitate. Give him the inbound turn. </span>

Note at this point NZS81E is 180 as he should be on localiser, and BMA2060 is 200 as he should be on base, so the speed difference will help!

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%282%29.png)

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">As the inbound turn is given the distance is 3.3nm. </span>

NSZ81E speed is 160 until 4DME

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">BMA2060 is reduced to 180 as he is inside of 10nm final. </span>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">The speed difference will equalize to the fact that becuase BMA2060 has still an intercept heading, separation would normally increase. </span>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Keep BMA2060 on 180 until he is established. </span>

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%283%29.png)

They are established, separation is 3.2 nm. Thats fine!!

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Reduce to 160 and handover to TWR. Thats it! </span>

**Remember!**

**When aircraft target passes preceedings 3nm arrow point, turn base!!**

#### 2 - Base turn with preceding on intercept

This is relatively easy. You do the same as above, because on intercept there is so little extra track miles, that its a matter of seconds for the turns. Just keep it simple and stick to same procedure as above.

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%284%29.png)

Again, its fine to issue the instruction even a few seconds before!!

3 - Basic Base turn with preceding also on base

This is tricky. You have two different scenarios. From same side or opposide side

Opposite side

Here you have two airplanes on same downwinds, BEL5EP already has base turn instructed. WHEN do you turn in TSA1631??

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%285%29.png)

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">You just gotta get a feeling for it. Learn how long time it takes for people to start their base turn after instruction is given. and then you must: </span>

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Issue the instruction so that base turn from TSA1631 is </span><u>**COMMENCED**</u> when is passing the extended base path of BEL5EP

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%286%29.png)

Now they should be flying towards eachother but a slight offset. Be carefull with altitudes here. It is easy to mistakenly create Loss of Separation here.

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%287%29.png)

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">As you turn BEL5EP. BE READY!! To turn TSA1631 inbound right after. It is very difficult to judge but use best judgement on where the 3nm arrow of TSA1631 is, to judge. Lets go through it. </span>

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%288%29.png)

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">AAs soon as BEL5EP starts the turn, you can see that TSA1631 already has more than 3nm. This is normally because: </span>  
  
Since TSA1631 was number 2 it was likely turned on base slightly later, hence is further from Localizer than BEL5EP. Take into consideration the ~2nm offset, then the difference in location from localizer gives the last mile, and you can turn TSA1631 in immediately after

![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%289%29.png)

<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span>![](https://moodle.vatsim-scandinavia.org/pluginfile.php/9089/mod_lesson/page_contents/1388/image%20%2810%29.png)

It worked!!